Dream-Led Living || Why Every Woman Deserves to Dream and HOW You Can Make This Your Year to Re-Learn How

As we step into this new year, there's a part of us that remembers the dreams we once had. I'm on a mission to invite that dreaming girl inside us back into our lives. We often let responsibilities, fears, and past failures dim our dreams, but it's time to change that.

Dreams are not only powerful, but they're also necessary for living a meaningful life. Whether they're big or small, our dreams matter, and it's vital that we give them space to grow and evolve alongside us. Let's embrace our dreams and walk this path together, knowing that the growth and transformation along the way are just as important as where we end up. Here's to a year of embracing possibilities and finding fulfillment, regardless of how big or small those dreams may seem.

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Monica Packer: there was a girl inside of you that desired for more out of her life, and whether within childhood or as she grew up out of childhood, she got lost somewhere along the way. And today I want to open the door and welcome her back in.

 

Monica Packer: Hi, this is Monica Packer and you're listening to about progress where we are about progress made practical. A warm and happy new year to you. If you are watching this video, then you are seeing my new podcast studio, and I say new in quotes because it's just my office with fancy lights in a different vantage point.

I'm now in the corner, but I think it's gonna work, and I'm really excited about pushing about progress to the next level.

I find that there are times to the calendar year that feel like fresh starts. My birthday is mid-year, so it always feels like a mid-year reset. Back to school is so full of New Year Energy, and of course we've got the actual New Year, which is all about new beginnings.

I feel like if January 1st had a personality, she'd be equal. Parts optimistic and ambitious.

Regardless of the time of year.

These feelings of fresh starts, optimism,

ambition,

and possibility.

Often drift away and are replaced with that pressure overwhelm, stress and responsibilities that real life brings. If February 1st had a personality, I feel like it would be meh. I don't know if you've seen that emoji, but meh. Maybe met at best and jaded at worst. I feel like February 1st, wouldn't even recognize January 1st.

You'd be like, who even was that today? I want to speak on something that I have literally sketched out for years, One that admittedly leans into that January joiner energy, but also one that I really, really hope transcends this particular month and something that carries you for years to come. And it's this, the power and necessity of dreaming.

We've all heard dream big before, but so very few of us do. Why is that? And does dreaming even matter given the world that we are living in? And if so, well, the next big question is how, how can we even dream with everything that we've gotta do every single day? I want to answer those questions and I want to push you to own your right to dream.

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Monica Packer: Before I really dig in, I want you to know this episode is kind of a companion episode to one that I recorded and released three years ago, the first episode of January in 2023. I almost covered dreaming first then, but as I was drafting the episode, I realized, you know what?

We can't talk about dreaming without talking about values. I see it this way. Values push and dreams pull. They work together to get you somewhere greater, farther, but also

Grounded, and in alignment, and both matter. To live a life that feels right and good to us. So I'll link in the show notes where you can listen to that episode. And if you think there are any holes in what I share today, I guarantee they are filled in that episode.

As a kid, I was naturally a dreamer. I remember tearing pictures out of my mom's j crew catalogs with outfits that I thought I would wear one day. As a teacher, I thought I could be. I would climb the huge cottonwood trees in our backyard, and I would stay up there for hours holding pretend dinner conversations with my future family or hosting a talk show like Oprah Winfrey.

My head was very often in the clouds, and I truly thought that the sky was the limit. I could have told you as a child that it would be just as possible for me to be a stay at home mom. As a rocket scientist, everything just felt possible. Many of us can relate to that kind of childhood, one where we saw bigger things for ourselves than we would ever easily own up to today.

So where did that girl go? If you can't relate because your childhood was insecure, scary, or even traumatizing, i'm very sorry. I would go as far to say that you were robbed of this precious time to dream without inhibitions that every child should have. I encourage you to stick with me for the next few minutes, and then the rest of this episode I think will still apply to you regardless of what childhood experiences you had.

Either way, there was a girl inside of you that desired for more out of her life, and whether within childhood or as she grew up out of childhood, she got lost somewhere along the way. And today I want to open the door and welcome her back in. To do so, we have to consider what happened to that dreaming girl?

Why did she lose the ability to dream? The first is actually the adults in our lives, and I wouldn't say they're all nefarious. I would say many are actually well-meaning there may be some adults that tap down on your dreams or stomp them completely with a weird sort of hope to spare you from the eventual disappointment and pain that real life can bring and how dreams are often lost. Maybe they are trying to prepare you for the real world or their own experiences of not having the right or ability to go after dreams is. Placing you in this weird position of you acting As an accomplice to their own realistic outlook.

Some people, again, will do that because they care for you and it's just a misguided, caring, and others because of their own trauma or disappointment and even resentment in their lives, lead to the stuffing down of any spark of dreaming that they see in their own child. And that is just so sad to me.

And what it really speaks to is fear. Adults all have little children inside of them, ones that are afraid and some of the things we can pass down to our kids, whether intentionally or not, are those fears. So think about that. How have maybe the adults in your life, whether it's a parent or a teacher, or a coach, or someone from church, either intentionally or unintentionally, made you dampen your own dreams.

The second big reason we drift away from dreaming is adulthood. It's just growing up. It's real life. It's the choices that we made or the lack of choices that we never really got to have. It's increased responsibilities. It's the real and valid sense that time is so incredibly precious and there isn't enough to spare.

And this is one I think we all experience to some degree, and it can be seasonal or it can last several decades or even a lifetime, where the realness of life interferes with us reaching for more. And because of that, we simply fall out of practice with dreaming and it becomes really foreign to us when we think of our childhood selves and the things we used to think were possible for us.

It might feel like an entirely different lifetime, an entirely different person, but we just are out of practice.

Think about that for you. How has becoming an adult and your own responsibilities led to you falling out of practice in this dreaming territory?

And the third is experience. Maybe you went for it and your dream was left unmet. Maybe your own disappointment acts as the main character in your head, constantly reminding you to not go there. To stay safe on the sidelines. To not try that voice may be saying, remember how much it hurt when you didn't get that dream you went for.

Remember when you were second place instead of first, remember when you didn't even make callbacks? Remember when that other person took over the position that you were gunning for? That hurt? Let's not try that again. That hurt too much.

Our experiences create new fears, and they also deepen some preexisting ones that we have, even as children, ones of inadequacy or insecurity. A loss of self, or a sinking of self. And when we don't get what we want and when we work for something so hard, it's really difficult to not have those deeper fears compounded.

Maybe your experiences with dreams were ones of failure, or perhaps ones where you put in a tremendous amount of work to meet only measly ends, or ones where you did so much to get after a dream, and maybe you got it, but the cost was so high that quitting became the dream or. It costs you something else dearly in your life that you would never want to pay again. I want you to think about how your experiences have led you to let that dreaming girl inside of you go.

So those are the three big categories I could think of. A adults adulthood experience, these things that really push us to dampen our dreaming tendencies. And I want you to really think about what those are for you. So that as we move forward, you can think back to this core, you still there inside of you, and almost picture her as that little girl that she was at one point and say, Hey, it's safe to come back.

These things happened to us. And it doesn't have to mean we stay here. There is more possible for us and it's okay for us to want that again. So how about you and I work together and we start trying again?

 

Monica Packer: I dreamt of so many things when I was a child. Many of them, almost all of them, unrealized. As an adult, I was extremely passionate about dance and performing and music, and yet today I can barely touch my toes. I talk myself out of trying for every local play. If I pick up my flute, it sounds so awful that it's demoralizing to even try to practice for 20 minutes, and whenever I open my mouth to sing, my vocal chords kind of crunch up and it literally hurts.

There were times as a young adult where I dreamed very seriously of getting my PhD and becoming a professor. Others where I thought maybe I'd have 10 kids and live on a homestead, maybe start a bakery out of my house. But none of these dreams have been realized for me. I have a rap sheet a mile long with more unfulfilled dreams than I can count.

And while I feel some regret honestly about not going down certain paths or persisting more on others, I can honestly tell you that I do not regret a single dream, I have held in my heart and pursued. In fact, I regret more the times where I did not dream. Here's why.

Even with all the disappointments, failures, rejections, and redirections, I can see that dreaming is powerful and even more than that, it is something our soul needs to find fulfillment in this dumpster fire of a world. I'm gonna break those two things down for you. Dreams are powerful and dreams are necessary.

Dreams are powerful because they pull us to something greater than ourselves, but starting within ourselves, and I think there's some kind of magic to that. Dreams grant us purpose to the daily pains, the rote acts, and the sacrifices we have to make as adults. Dreams transcend the impossibilities around us.

They inspire both deep and practical change. They are so motivating to those changes. And finally, dreams add sparkle to an otherwise responsibility gray colored life. They make things fun.

I hope at least one of those resonates with you. So? How can you think about ways dreams are powerful in your life? The next thing I wanted to cover is that dreams are necessary. I see this over and over again when I look back on the history of mankind, but also micro wise within my family, my friendships.

I think about this when I was a teacher or when I get to meet with women in our community and work with women one-on-one, it is in our very makeup as humans to dream. It is, I think, one of the most important. Distinguishing features between us and other animals. We desire for more for progress.

We reach for more, and when we deny ourselves of dreaming, we deny ourselves of a core part of ourselves. One that I think is necessary to live a life that feels like it matters. To live a life of meaning and of fulfillment, even just for ourselves. Dreams are necessary, and this is where I think a redefinition of what dreaming even is, is an order.

What does it mean to dream? If I were to put it really simply, dreaming is the desire for more.

The things we want more in, maybe the things we want to do, the things we want to try to achieve, to experience. And I would say even most importantly, to become, and here's more of a formal definition that I came up with. Dreams are the desires we have for our lives that are bigger than our current realities.

Hold on to that for a second. I'll say it one more time for you. Dreams are the desires we have for our lives that are bigger than our current realities. When you hear that, I need you to know that dreams can be deep, they can be superficial, they can be small, they can be big. They don't have to be big and loud to count as dreams.

I very often think of my grandpa who passed away a few years ago. Most people have never heard of Gerald Simmons. He led a very quiet life and he was naturally a quiet man. He was a small town teacher and farmer. He was raised dirt poor alongside a few siblings. Including his twin brother who shared his twin stutter.

Gerald experienced great loss as a farmer of course, but he also lost his oldest child at nine years old on that farm to a tragic accident. My grandpa. May have never dreamt of becoming the president of the United States, and he never aspired to become a wealthy man or to go far away from his hometown and to travel the world and to do big things that would appear on the front of newspapers across the world.

But he did dream to make life better, starting with his family. He made a comfortable life for his family better than he had it growing up. He also did this as a school teacher in his own past. He was plagued by a teacher he held for most of his childhood that demoralized him every day. Thanks to his stutter and as a high school coach and teacher, he made that space a wonderful, welcoming, open.

Space for kids to come to. He was a safe person for people to come to. He also dreamed of retiring and crafting. He was a big time crafter. He dreamed of living hand in hand with my grandma and just spending their time doing puzzles and reading on their recliners and enjoying their grandchildren. And I have to say thanks to my grandpa's dreams for better in his life, my life was changed for the better too.

I was of course changed by his kindness, his hard work ethic, his creativity, his quiet peacemaker ways. And when I think of a world without Gerald Simmons. I can't think of a world that I personally would feel as happy living in.

Do you discount yourself from dreaming because you are convinced it's reserved for only certain types of dreams or certain types of people then I really want you to own this. Regardless of size and scope, ultimately dreaming is thinking bigger about what you want out of your life from who you are to what you do, and you get to decide what that looks like.

Can you make space for that? Can you let that be what dreaming means to you? If so, that it's time to own what it can look like for you. Starting with, I think the real seed to dreaming its desire. This is something I have learned a lot about over the years from Dr. Jennifer Finlayson Fife. She talks about how so much of who we are as adults is getting in tune with what we want deep down inside of us, and I can't think of dreaming without.

Desire. We have to know what that is now. Desiring for more can be very specific. Maybe you can actually name the very specific ways that you would like things to be different or newer or bigger or better. Maybe you can get specific about dreams that have a very clear outcome like running a marathon or even running for Congress or going back to school or learning how to make a certain type of pastry.

I have the dream to be able to make pies again, just for the record, but if you can't be specific yet, perhaps out of fear, perhaps due to being out of practice like we discussed, then I want you to just start with this desire. The desire to desire. Even if you just want to be able to want things, that's enough to start with.

If you can make space for even that, then you are on the right path because again, if you're out of practice, this is gonna feel really foreign and even uncomfortable and scary for you. So if you can just start with the desire to desire more, then you're good and honestly, I think this desire to desire may matter the very most because you will experience failure as you pursue your dreams.

Your dreams will need to pivot. You may have to start over or pick up an entirely different dream than you ever intended. But the desire to want more out of your life is what will propel you to keep going until you can get more specific with time about what you want, whether it's now or in the near future or at the very end of your life.

Start with even the desire to desire.

 

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Monica Packer: This seed of desire is actually what led me to about progress, but it didn't start with a specific dream to have a podcast 10 years ago. I just wanted to want, again, I dreamed of dreaming again, life and good intentions had happened to me in my pursuit to be a good mother. I lost myself, and you may know the story by now, how I needed to rediscover Monica again.

So I made this list of 30 things I wanted to try before I turned 30, and the goal was mediocrity. It was not even about completion. And in pursuing that list, I not only learned so much about myself. I also found the spark reignited in me, this little seed to desire to dream again. And then the podcast led to more dreams and they have just rolled on top of each other.

But here's something really important I want you to know because I can see a podcast , doesn't seem like a small dream. It definitely started that way. especially if you've been here for now, the nine plus years that we've been here together when our 10th year of podcasting. Then, you know, just how small this podcast started.

But even when you hear that or you see it, or you've been able to experience it alongside me, it may seem like, well, that's obviously a big thing, but I have to tell you though. I have not pigeonholed myself to these dreams that I have now. My dreams are allowed to change. If my podcast goes away, then it'll be time for new dreams.

In fact, I have found that one thing that has helped me greatly in moments of major discouragement and even burnout with my online work.

Is to have other dreams on the sidelines or on the back burner that I'm holding on to. And I'm just gonna tell you that one for me right now is going back to school. I would love to do that.

And additionally, I have other dreams that transcend just this work. I have dreams of traveling more with my family, of becoming a quilter or an artist. I dream of having deep connected relationships with my spouse and my children. I dream of leading a life of learning and development regardless of what titles and accolades I hold or do not hold.

And because of all those dreams, I know that my life is so much bigger than just one being realized and that there's always more waiting for me when life requires a change of pace and I share that all with you because we often think that dreams have to be achieved.

To be meaningful, that they have to be about careers or being seen or known to count. They have to be kind of newspaper worthy. But I'm gonna come back to this like I already shared earlier, any kind of dreaming counts, it all matters , if you dream about figuring out your hair or you dream about making a major change in your school district, it all matters because you matter.

And dreaming is so much more about the becoming of the person doing the dreaming than what actually comes of the dreaming. And that brings me back to a saying we often say here, which is. The transformation lies in the process, not the outcome. So even though dreams pull us towards bigger things, better things, more in our lives, it's so much more about who we are becoming along the way than if we ever get those dreams realized.

And that's why I think if we allow ourselves the space to dream we'll never really regret it.

 

Monica Packer: So if all this feels like too much, I just want you to go back to that seed. The seed of desiring to desire. Like even if you just can want to want, again, that's where you can start. And as you make space for that, the next, I think you can get curious more about what you want. And then this leads to.

A very big question and one that you may have asked at the very start of this episode, and it's how, how can I dream with this real life that I have?

Now we can get into some brass tacks about casting a vision of where you want to be and breaking that down into more doable goals and having timelines and all of that. There are so many resources for that, so I'm just gonna tell you. Things that are different, things that I think are more, , deep inside of us, but also can lend to more practical ways to do the how.

But that I hope can act more as a compass as you figure it out. Because the truth is, is you will figure it out. You can figure out the how, if you own these kinds of things. So here is how, here is how we can actually dream. The first is we have to know ourselves, and that goes back to the values episode.

You need to know what matters to you in your life. What do you value dearly in your life? What are the most important priorities? And also with that, what are your wants? What are your dislikes? What are your interests? What are your passions? We have to do a lot of that deep work to have dreams that actually will feel meaningful to us.

I think there are many people out there who think they were after a dream, but what they were really after was their father's dream or the dream they thought they were supposed to have thanks to a teacher or a movie they saw, or friend they had. If we know ourselves, then our dreams truly are about us, and that also helps us pursue them differently.

I have a couple tools for you in this Know Yourself category. I have that values episode I mentioned, and as part of that, there's the Ultimate Values exercise. You can get that about progress.com/values. There's also the Do Something List. My friends, our time is coming up for free training soon, so email me if you haven't seen registration for that yet.

And regardless, the free training will be available at the same place. So go to about progress.com/dsl to get whatever recent recording we have of that training. But the live version always happens in January too. Um, so. Think about creating a do something list. That's the main way that I shared as I was approaching 30, that I just got to know me again so that I could even dream in ways that felt right and good to me.

And I just wanna say, if you want to make your dream this, like I dream of knowing myself again. Excellent. Five stars a plus. That's where I think you should start. Honestly, knowing yourself I think is the biggest, baddest, most important dream there is. Full stop, and it's always a work in progress too.

The second answer I think to this how question is, you do need to start with the end in mind. And you know, earlier I was saying like cast a vision of where you wanna go. I was thinking more specifically, but when I say start with the end in mind, and this is something that Steven Covey taught years ago, I'm actually thinking like the end, end.

I'm talking about the kind of morbid push to think about your funeral one day, and if you were to be able to visit your own funeral, what would your legacy be? What would people say about you? What memories would they share? What experiences would be visible in the pictures they have as people come to attend the memorial?

In Your honor, what? What will people have said that you, uh, achieved or did with your life? How would they describe you? Character wise? That also goes hand in hand with values by the way. So when I say start with the end in mind, I'm actually thinking go there a bit. Imagine attending your own funeral, and what do you hope that.

That moment would say about your life, and that can give you a lot of direction on what you need to dream about. The third way we can answer the how is to name your dreams. So once you know yourself, once you think more deeply about who you want to be and you're getting in tune with what you want, you've got to name what these dreams are.

And I'm saying very specifically

this is something I resisted for a long time. I think when I was about to turn 30, when I looked back on my life, I saw these swings of pursuing dreams in that perfectionist driven way. And then I also saw the years where I held back from even dreaming and naming things because it hurt too much to dream.

Either the cost was too high, or the pain in not having those dreams realized was too high. And so. I did not put pen to paper for probably 10 years, if not more, with actually naming what my dreams were. And that could be with goals or resolutions or even just journaling about them. Um. It was too painful to kind of see it inside of myself, but as I was about to turn 30, we're at the 10 year mark for that, my friends.

This is so fun that it goes in conjunction with that, that milestone in my life and how the next milestone is coming with 40. But when I was about to hit that 30 milestone and I saw the 10 years where I stayed safe from pursuing more out of my life, including dreaming, there was even more pain in that.

The kind of pain that outweighed the pain of trying. But I just had to find a new way to do that and we're gonna talk about that in a moment, but beginning with even putting, creating that do something list, that was my weird sort of dreams then. They weren't super specific. And again, the whole goal of them was not to achieve them.

It was all about the trying, which freed me to lean in more. But there was so much power with literally putting it on paper. And what you don't see right outta camera are my goals for the last year that I finally put out. And I've just, I've seen it over and over again. The great power. That is naming our dreams, especially with putting them to paper.

So whether you do that literally or not, and I actually would encourage you to try for literal, I think it's super important to name them even for yourself. If all you can do is go for a walk and kind of talk to yourself and just say what you want, there's so much goodness in that. The fourth way we can answer this how question.

Is our adage do something. I talked about how my perfectionistic ways made me pay too high of cost to go after my dreams, and I achieved many of them. I mean, I was an almost straight A student in college with a scholarship. It would've been really easy for me to get into grad schools that I wanted.

That's what I thought I wanted for many years, but the price for that was too high for me. It hurt too much. And yet robbing myself of years where I wouldn't try, like I said, was even more painful. So learn from me now so you don't have to learn it the hard way or learn it the hard way with me 'cause we're doing this together.

Instead of all, instead of nothing, do something. Do something to go for it one step at a time, even if that something is naming it like we shared, or writing a journal entry about it or sharing it with a friend or making a vision board. Do something and then do the next something. This is where we do one step at a time, and as part of that, when you do something, we're gonna come to the fifth and final.

How Be prepared for imperfection. Put another way in a way that isn't so pleasant. Expect failure. Expect it. Expect to ride a roller coaster as you pursue progress in your life. Times where things are smooth sailing and you're just on the ride and enjoying it. Times where it's all uphill times where you are almost thrown off the ride completely.

Be prepared. To pivot, be prepared to pause. Be prepared to persist too, but in a different way. Because if you are acknowledging that the whole point of dreaming is who you are becoming in the process, then you can decide if you are going to persist because you want to or because like you feel you have to.

And there's a big difference for that. There's a big difference between stopping and quitting. And I have a whole growth spurt on that a hu a few years ago. There's a big difference between the two. So that final thing was to, make space for imperfection.

When we look back on the history of, of mankind, we see the literal results of people dreaming from improved education standards in the modern world to discoveries like DNA to walking on the moon, to curing measles. I mean, there are so many benefits that we all reap from just a few people dreaming.

And in the same breath, I want you to think of my experience with my grandpa. Even if your dreams are small and maybe like my grandpa, you never really leave the small town you were born and raised in, or it'll go far outside of it. Maybe if your dreams lie within your home and your family, maybe if your dreams seem more quiet or if you have audacious ones that maybe you've hidden away or ambitions inside of you that you've pushed aside out of fear, or because you didn't think those were okay.

I want you to leave this episode knowing that the world, however big and small needs you to dream because your life not only matters to you, it matters to other people, and the way that you dream and who you become is going to directly affect. So many other lives. If that's the final case I can give to you is that the world needs you to dream.

That's it, my friends, for our whole episode on how we need to dream. Again, the progress pointers for this are just going to be a couple takeaways and. This was so hard to sort out on my own. So just know I'm going to spend some time doing that and I'll be able to share those with you on our newsletter.

So you can go to about progress.com/newsletter to sign up and the graphic will come with a simplified version of our takeaways here. But the main takeaways are all humans have the right to dream. Dreams are powerful, dreams are necessary.

Any type of dreaming counts. Dreaming is more about who we become than what we achieve. And in order to get there, we have to know who we are, what we want, and do something to move towards making those dreams realized. And again, at the end of the day, if the dreams aren't realized with the end results you wanted, the whole point was you to begin with.

So stick with them. My friends, we are celebrating already our 10 year anniversary of the podcast, which happens this fall, but we're already well into our 10 years. I would be so honored if you'd be able to support the pursuit of this podcast and its community by joining the Supporters Club, which is how this podcast sticks around.

The Supporters Club gets access to three levels of exclusive benefits for more time to more content with me, including my private premium ad free podcast called More Personal, where I lean into the personal side of personal development. It's released every week, and I'd love to have you sign up at about progress.com/support.

It's really important that we increase the members to the Supporters Club, but just know you can always support the show for free. Keep listening. Share the show with a friend. Leave a rating and review on Apple Podcast. Any one of those things goes miles in helping the show.

Continue. And one last reminder before we go, the Do Something List training should be happening anytime soon. So be sure to check out the show notes to see if I already have a sign up for that. And if not, you can email me at hello at About Progress and I'll send you the link.

And I would love to see you there so you can create your Do Something list for 2026. The very thing that led to this podcast to begin with. Thank you so much for listening. Now go and do something with what you learned today.

 

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