It’s OK to Want More || How Women Can Overcome Guilt and Embrace Their Desires

Today I'm talking about the importance of acknowledging our desire for more in life without guilt or fear. As I work with my coaching clients, I've noticed that many women struggle with embracing their wants, fearing it makes them appear ungrateful or selfish.

I'm thrilled to launch the inaugural More for Moms Conference, a free virtual event featuring 25 inspiring speakers who are also moms, sharing their insights into areas like happiness and health. This conference aims to empower mothers to seek more fulfillment and progress. Wanting more isn't just about obtaining what we desire; it's about embracing who we genuinely are. So, I invite you to consider what you truly want more of in life and pursue it with courage, knowing it's okay to strive for more.

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Monica Packer: [00:00:00] Hi, this is Monica Packer and you're listening to about progress where we are about progress made practical. If you are a bookworm, then you know that when you read more than one book at a time or even just a few books close together, the books sort of talk to each other. I have found that this is also true with my coaching clients.

Similar themes tend to pop up with clients around the same time. Themes that, to me, act as threads that knit us together as women pursuing progress in a world that pushes against that very thing. Earlier this year, it seemed like each one of my clients was grappling with something good but complicated.

The desire for more. But with that desire also came the fear of more, the question of more the practicality of more too. I witnessed a lot of my clients resist this desire, assuming it made them ungrateful [00:01:00] or selfish for the life they already had. I saw others repress it, leading to resentment and criticism within their relationships, and still others who knew something was lacking, but they didn't quite have the courage nor the awareness to know what.

Over and over. Each client had to face a fact. It's good to want more. As I worked through the many complexities that both validating and valuing the desire for more brings with each of these women, I slowly saw them come back to life. There were a few times with a few clients that the contrast between one session to the next was undeniable.

It was as if one meeting, I saw them with a mask on, and the next, the mask was gone. This thread of more is something that didn't only connect my clients. I saw it embedded deeply in multiple ways, stitching together our larger community. It made me wonder what if women moms in [00:02:00] particular had the permission to reach for more out of their lives, what would change for them and their families?

If women got off the sidelines, valued their desires and found more fulfillment, what could be possible in our neighborhoods and even the world if women were more themselves? I sat with these possibilities for quite some time. And then all of a sudden I knew it was finally time to do something I had long thought about, but didn't quite have the time, the connections, or even the expertise to pull off an online conference for women.

In April, I began in earnest what has become an exhaustive but fulfilling work to create the inaugural more for moms conference. This five day free virtual gathering will feature 25 world class speakers. All of them moms with their own special expertise in the categories, happiness, habits, health, home, and hobbies.

Each session will inspire deep and [00:03:00] practical change within mothers who desire more fulfillment, joy, and progress in their lives. I still cannot believe who agreed to say yes to speaking at this conference. Please believe me when I tell you that each speaker session hit me right at the core that I believe lives will truly be changed thanks to more for moms, and that this may be the best thing I've ever done with about progress.

You can sign up for the free basic [email protected] slash more for moms. You can also check out the affordable All Access Pass with special features like a private podcast feed with audio versions of the speaker sessions, and lifetime access to all of the content from videos to transcripts.

We officially begin October 6th, and I'm eager for this conference to inspire you to reach for more out of your life too because you are more yourself. In honor of this conference, I decided to air an episode that was originally published as the first episode of 2024. [00:04:00] In it, I ponder and answer this question, what if wanting more out of life isn't selfish, but the key to feeling truly fulfilled?

You'll hear me unpack the hidden fears that hold women back from naming their desires, and I'll show you how to embrace your more without guilt. If you've ever wondered what you really want and how to get it even in a busy season, this episode will give you permission, practical tools, and a fresh perspective.

September feels like almost the second new year of the year. So the fact that this episode originally aired in a January and has new Year vibes feels appropriate to applying those same lessons to the new school year. But for you right here, right now, that episode is coming up after a quick break for our sponsors.

I think it would weirdly be helpful to define [00:05:00] more and why it matters that we all can desire more and seek more in our lives because.

Even defining more is not so self-explanatory. After all, we're very different people and we're all living in very different seasons, and I think it's really important to start even our conversation and our digging into more with the, the pursuit of not judging, not judging or policing, what more looks like for each other, starting with ourselves.

So I wanna give you permission right now to own whatever more feels right for you in general. More to me is anything you long for an increase in anything you long for an increase in. So, and some examples of this, maybe you want more community, maybe you want more learning, fulfillment, habits, achievements, more friendship, more [00:06:00] ambition.

Sometimes it's really easy. To name what comes to mind right off the bat, and if you have something that just rolls off the tongue, as soon as I'm like, what do you want more of in your life? What do you long for an increase in? I would follow that. So what comes to mind? Sometimes you can best name. What more is that you want as a feeling?

Maybe you want more peace, more fun, more contentment, more of a push. Other times we can define more. Very literally, I want more organization. I want more spiritual study. I want more money in my bank account. I want more systems for our family. I want more personal habits. I want more date nights and beyond just the feelings and the literal areas of our lives that we can long for increase in.

There's also the things that are kind of hard. They're not really a [00:07:00] feeling. They're not quite literal, but you know that you want an increase in it. Maybe you want more love in your marriage or love for yourself. Maybe you long for an increase in growth or intention. I want you to think of if there's an area in your life that you want more in, let's start by giving you a sentence to complete, and this is a way for you to remove the judgment.

And the standards that you might be imposing on yourself, and I just want you to try to answer this. I want more. If you can complete that sentence, I want you to really lean into naming it. Write down what you want more of. Again, don't judge it. Don't dismiss it. Whether it's one thing or many, many, many. I have more on coming on what to do with all of that in just a bit.

First, if you can't complete that sentence very easily, if at all, don't worry yet because [00:08:00] you're not alone. In fact, for many years I struggled naming what I wanted more of out of my life. I just knew I didn't feel content despite my years of this inner battle. An insistence on myself that I should be filled with nothing but satisfaction because of my life and how good it was.

I had a lot of fears with more. So if you are struggling to complete that sentence, I want more. Next, we need to really dig in to what fears you are carrying with it, and for those of you who can even name them more, you're gonna have these fears too. Can you think of why you are afraid of wanting more in your life?

Here's another sentence starter for you to help you come up with those fears. I'm afraid of wanting more because. Now I've had the privilege [00:09:00] of walking a lot of women through anchoring more into their wants, and a lot of their wants have the, these roots of wanting more of things. And so I've often seen some pretty common fears come up.

So I'm gonna share with you what I see as the most common fears associated with wanting more. These top fears are a fear of being selfish, a fear of acting ungrateful. A fear of becoming too demanding, a fear of disrupting your family's lives, a fear of abandoning your responsibilities. That one's really, really heavy.

When I say that, abandoning my responsibilities, a lot of women jump right to, if I lean into what I want, I will abandon my family. Like they go right to that fear. And just a quick side note on that, I feel that the women we do hear these stories about, and there are those stories, those that abandon [00:10:00] everything, including their families to me, are most often women who have suppressed their wands for far too long until everything broke.

I have talked about this story before and I have to just share it here because it really connects back to one of my fears of being selfish and wanting more. Before I dated my husband, Brad, I seriously dated another guy, and a lot of people in our friendship groups and in our neighborhood. Knew that I was quote unquote, unofficially engaged to this guy, and I would say we were not, but whatever.

That's just how it was known. The point is, is we were pretty serious, like Napoleon Dynamite, serious, and. We were talking about one day if we're married and we have kids, and I was just talking about, oh, when I'm a mom , I can't wait to learn Spanish on the side, or I think I wanna take guitar lessons and maybe some art lessons.

And I just rattled off a few of other things that I would love to [00:11:00] explore more of in my life. Some interest that I had even in then. And this guy looked at me and he said, isn't that selfish? And I always have to end that story by insisting something that's really important. This was a good guy. This was not some bad villain guy, but he had that fear in him that leaning into your own personal wants is selfish.

And even though that time, that was a red flag for me, I totally adopted this fear myself, and that's what stuffed down me. Wanting more in my life and being okay with wanting more and, and following that more in my life. Before we fully flesh out what your wants are, you do need to start with naming your fears.

What are you afraid of? Have you been taught that it's wrong to want things? A discontent woman is a dangerous, [00:12:00] selfish woman that if you explore and lean into more of what you want, that you'll only think of yourself, that your family and your responsibilities will suffer if you have wants and you pursue them.

I want to adamantly and bluntly say this to you, those fears are not true. Back when I couldn't even name my wants. I knew that my repression of them was doing me and my family no favors. Instead of feeling content, even though I had demanded of myself to feel content for many years, I felt other things instead.

That really surprised me. I felt a lot of resentment, a lot of jealousy, and a lot of anger. Those three dominant emotions became a big part of my personality, and that was a big personality shift because that is not who I am. I [00:13:00] don't like these feelings, mostly because I knew they were hurting my most important relationships.

Also, I found 'em really confusing. Like why was I feeling these things when I only had the best intentions? I was doing my best to put myself and my wants aside so I could be the kind of mother and wife I wanted to be. So why were those very things suffering? Because I was living what I thought was a pretty selfless life.

At this time, I was super lucky to attend a workshop by Dr. Jennifer Finlayson Fife. She's been on the show many times, and this workshop was called, and Still is called, the Art of Desire. This was actually the first workshop Jennifer ever taught and the things she kept saying throughout the, I think it was a three or four hour workshop, she kept saying throughout the workshop.

Oh my gosh. We're gonna need more time. We need more time. And that three or four hour workshop is now a days long experience. Experience because this is so much [00:14:00] to unpack. Her main topic was and is still the same. Women need to be more in tune with their desires and doing so will benefit and bless every part of their lives.

And other words for desires is wants. When I sat and listened to this workshop, it was a completely novel concept to me. One that initially filled me with all the fears, uh, we've mentioned, because I had nowhere to go but up though I took up Jennifer's advice and I started to live out what she taught me, beginning with even opening myself up to the idea of being a person who was allowed to want things.

And doing that. Long story short is what began the years long journey that not only changed my life, but my entire family's. So for those of you who feel those fears that you'll be selfish and grateful, demanding, disruptive of your family, abandon your responsibilities, I want you to just know about what my life is like right now.[00:15:00]

I actually want more out of my life still. I have so many wants ranging from big to small, from internal to external, from achievements to feelings. I want more out of my life, and I've also never been more fulfilled and content. Yes, you hear me saying that I am both wanting more and I am more content than ever.

Those feelings of resentment, jealousy, and anger, those feelings do not lead my life anymore. I am not running from my responsibilities. I'm actually showing up to them with myself intact. I am not selfish. I have more to give from. I haven't ruined my family. In fact, I've saved it, and that's a whole other story for another time.

Whatever your fears are behind wanting more. I want you to know they are valid fears, but they aren't [00:16:00] real. I want you to push against the fears by anchoring into this truth. Instead, when you feel that fear, remind yourself, wants are good, it's okay to want more. In fact, I would go as far to say that what you want is a reflection of who you really are.

Deep down. Now that we've really leaned into the fears behind why we are afraid of going after more, as well as the importance of wanting more in our lives, it's time to reach for more. Next up, I'll help you get more clarity on what more you want of in your life, how to get there, including the importance of honoring the limitations of your season.

But first, a quick break for our sponsors.

So the day this episode is airing is January 1st, and to me that's one of the most exciting days of the year, and I know that people love to poke fun at how [00:17:00] well excited people get to remake themselves starting today.

But I find it a beautiful thing. It's the kind of all things are possible energy that I think we should absolutely lean into. However, I think we should lean into it with a bit more wisdom, more intention, and more reality. When I was first leaning into more again in my life, I was not at the point where I was ready or even able to make goals.

Um, so whether or not you are a goals person or a resolutions person, I wanna help you with, uh, both stating. Naming what you want more of and work on the how part of it, so that way you can begin to strategize it. I think this is really, really important and what I'm about to share with you could actually be used as an alternative to making goals if you are just not in that place, or you wanna try something different this year, but it can [00:18:00] also act as a way for you to build better goals and resolutions this year because these things will be based in.

Who you are and what you actually want and not what you think you should want. So I am going to walk you through what I'm calling. The more Guide Guide, oh, actually let's change that guide to more. That sounds a lot better. And this is actually gonna be a totally free resource, and it's available to [email protected] slash more.

Um, I'll walk you. Generally through what this guide entails, so that way you can get a little preview, but also so that you can begin to work on this on your own, whether or not you end up getting the guide. And I think this is especially important after you've already named your fears and you've anchored into the truth that wanting more out of your life is a good thing, it's okay to want more.

So feel free to listen through all of this and then you can follow up with the guide on your own time. Um, [00:19:00] but. Don't let you, not having the guide in your hand stop you from listening for starters, but also starting to think this through here. The guide is just the next step up, but you can listen now and begin to answer these questions in your own mind and that will honestly help you a lot.

So the way I see what we need to do next, after we have named our fears and we've anchored into the truth, we then need to name our wants and then strategize based on our season. So with this, let's talk about naming your wants. I have a couple ways to do this. First is actually starting with what you lack.

This is especially good for those of you who struggle to just name your wants. If I point to you and say, what do you want? And you're like, uh, I don't know, okay, this is where you can actually start is it's opposite what you feel you are lacking. [00:20:00] So pay attention to the things you feel like you are lacking, or maybe some jealousy comes up, or resentment.

Those are all signs to things that you feel you are lacking, which actually points to what you want more of. Uh, these are great clues for what you actually want. So do you feel like you are lacking fun? Maybe you need to have a fun hobby or to prioritize more fun as a family. Are you feeling jealous over someone who's maybe going back to school or running a race that looks really cool, or picking up a hobby that sounds interesting, that tells you that there's something about that thing that you want, whether it's the actual thing or something about it.

Are you feeling resentment? Over something like how little time you are getting to yourself, um, then that's what you want more of. You want more time to yourself. So starting with what you are feeling, lack in is a great way to show you what you, what you want more of. The next step to naming what you want more of is naming [00:21:00] feelings.

And I mentioned this early on so I don't have to expand on this a lot, but essentially, what kind of feelings do you want more of in your life? I want more excitement. I want more peace. I want more steadiness. I want more joy. Uh, kind of naming those feelings act as a great compass, I think, to the literal things that you want more of.

And that's actually the next category. So the next category to naming what you want is the literal things you want. Now I have broken this a lot more, um, I've broken this down a lot more in the guide, and I'm gonna tell you what categories I put under literal. So the literal things you want more of include what habits and routines you want, what systems at home and or work that you want, what hobbies you want.

What things underneath health you would like more of? Uh, spirituality, relationships, ambitions. So you kind of walk through those things. What's the habit that I really want in my [00:22:00] life? What's a hobby? I would love to lean more into. What's something I want in terms of my relationships? What do I want more of within my relationships?

What do I want more of within my health? Using that lens of what do I want more of in these areas, I think are a great way for you to better name what you want and also somehow better weed through the shoulds, because all those same categories have a lot of shoulds that we could easily list off. But if you're making the point being about, what do I want more in this area, it will give you that clarity you need.

And also going back to the feelings. The feelings will also guide what you want literally too. If I want more joy, and I'm looking at these categories, I think, well, a hobby that could add more joy would be this, or something I could do within my relationships would create more joy if I were to prioritize this.

I think you're getting all of this right. So we've named what we lack. We've named what we, we want more of feeling wise. We are labeling and naming what we want more literally. [00:23:00] And then there's the fourth area here, which is the hard to name wants. And this is where it might not be a feeling, it may not be something that is quite literal in terms of an achievable thing.

Like I'll know I can. Reach this literal outcome when I have this hobby or when we go on more date nights for our relationships, things like that. But it's still something in your heart. It's calling to you like, maybe I want more ambition. Maybe something that's hard for you to name is I just want to grow more, or I wanna feel more like myself.

The hard to name section is hard to name. So that part of the guide will just be a little bit more of a blank space for you to kind of do whatever comes to mind and let yourself almost, um, freestyle at, you know, just to not overthink it, to brainstorm in a way what are some hard to name parts of your life that you want more of.

[00:24:00] After we have named our wants, then we move on to strategizing. And the strategizing is where we get clear on the how, but with a very important caveat that we do so with our season in mind. Too often the problem I see with goal making during this time of year is that we strategize without taking into account what our reality is.

Like, what's your energy like right now? What are the circumstances in your work and family that might influence your time, your energy, your capacity, uh, what's else is going on financially or within your relationships or your health that are important to your season? That's where you actually need to take a little bit of time to level with yourself about where am I right now?

What is my life like right now? And this is where many of us will feel a little bit of disparity between what we [00:25:00] want and what our life. Literally is, or how what we want can compete with how much time, energy, or money that we have. And this is where I'm gonna tell you I'm not gonna toxic, positivity, guilt, shame you on this and just say, decide today's your day and do it now because you're the only one in charge of your life.

While there is a big part of, you know, inner motivation and, and having that strength of resolve and anchoring into your wants. While that all matters, we can't just. Hop over the fact that we have special needs kids or that we're in a really hard season health wise, or we are very financially strapped and we need a new job.

So it's important for you to know those things, not so you limit what you want, but so that you can pursue what you want in ways that are actually realistic. So you just don't keep going down this cycle that. You have these big things and you own them, but your life doesn't work with them. And so you keep [00:26:00] just thinking nothing is possible.

Instead, what we do is we acknowledge where we're at in our season and we actually accept the limitations of our season. And this may be surprising to you 'cause you might think. That will make me just stay stuck. The opposite is actually what happens when you accept the limitations of your season. It actually frees you up to have more possibility to think more.

Outside of the the box about what you can do to still lean into maybe starting with the feelings like maybe I don't have time to go back to medical school like I really want to do. Like that is, that is a very specific ambition that I can name. This is not me. I'm just giving an example. I do not wanna go to medical school.

I cannot handle blood and science and chemistry and all that stuff anyway. But let's say that that is something for you, you can name, I have a clear want to go to medical school. And then when you think about your season right now, [00:27:00] well, your season is that your, your spouse just lost their job. And that's what needs to happen right now is, is supporting them while they find their job or getting your, your job okay, getting a new job for you so that you can help support the family and work through this difficult period.

So it's not the right time for you to be studying for the exams that lead to medical school, or maybe you have. A kid that needs you around a lot more than they did in the past, or maybe that they continue to need more of you. And that's just the season for now, for whatever needs they have. Um, so you know that medical school is not in the future right now.

Now when you accept the limitations, like right now, I can't go to medical school school, even though that is the ambition I have, I can accept my limitations. Well, what about medical school appeals to me. Maybe it's the feelings of pushing myself. Maybe it's, uh, some of the literal stuff of being able to take more time for my own interests [00:28:00] and that would be something that would really help me feel like me more.

Maybe it's feeling like, uh, we would need to have more systems in place at home to enable me to have those times so I can work on having systems to give myself more time to have my own interests. Um, see how that can still give you some more sense of possibility. To lean into your more still, but in a way that's realistic to your season.

And if you're still struggling with this idea, I totally get it. It's a pretty big idea. I did a whole episode on this in 2022. Yes. And it's actually one of my favorite episodes, and I get a lot more personal about some special needs that we have in our family and how owning those special needs for me and the limitations they've brought to our family has actually freed me.

To step up to them better and in ways where I'm still honoring my own wants, but maybe in different ways than I would even want to. So I will link to that episode in the show notes for you. And again, I just wanna level with you. [00:29:00] It's okay that your season isn't matching exactly what you want. 2023 was that season for me.

I had a lot of wants both literally and feeling wise and even hard to name wise that it just wasn't my season with adjusting to a fifth child and all that entailed and some other special needs that came apparent in our family. It wasn't the season, but I was still able to own that and lean into other things that still helped me feel like myself.

And I'm guessing 2024, we'll have those curve balls done to all of us too. So accept and acknowledge the limitations of your season and still look back on your list of what you've already made, especially if you're following the guide. And reach for more in areas that you know can still happen, especially when you're giving yourself more of that.

The idea of what is possible here. So after you have one acknowledged and accepted the limitations of your season, you then do these next two big [00:30:00] steps. First is, you know, after you choose one of those things or a few of those things, and I would start small, choose one of those things and sit in this place of casting a vision.

Think about where would I like to be. With this thing by the end of 2024, what will it look like to have more in this area of my life? How will it feel? How will I know when I've reached that more? I'm looking for cast a vision, get really clear on what it will look like, feel like, and from there, then you plot your first steps.

Notice that I did not say, lay out all the steps. Break them down and then work backwards and lay them all out month by month until, you know, their exact plan. You could do that. You could do that. But to me, I think it's, it feels more doable and I, I actually can get more in the [00:31:00] momentum that I need to just focus on the one of my first steps.

Because as I start to, sometimes for me, especially, um, when I'm thinking about the big picture, I get really overwhelmed. And then even just the process of trying to lay out the whole big picture and all the steps prevents me from even starting anything. 'cause it takes so much energy to plot it all out.

So instead, this is my little trick, I just think about what are my next first steps? And this is where you just ask yourself what is the, what is the first step? And it's just a small, doable step, and you can do that by just brainstorming. What could the first steps be? Well, let's say that you want more fun, and that one is still something you feel like within your season and the limitations of your season.

You can still honor. I want more fun in my life. You can brainstorm well, well first you cast a vision. What would that look like? How would it feel? How would I know if I've gotten more fun in my family? And that will give you a [00:32:00] lot of ideas on what different things you can do, whether it's having more adventures as a family, or having family traditions, or being able to have a fun hobby for yourself, or taking more fun date nights, or going out with friends more, you know, you get more ideas.

Then from there you think, well, what are the first steps of any of those things? I want the first step would be maybe telling our friends, Hey. This year just texting your friend and saying, Hey, this year I wanna go to dinner more with you. Are you game? Do you see how I didn't say You're gonna say to your friend, hi, I have a 12 month calendar spread, and the first Monday of each month we are going to trade off who's planning a night together and we gotta invite the whole neighborhood.

And actually this is gonna be a big event, so it, you know, you just don't spiral there. Just think about what's the first step. I'm gonna text a friend and see if they wanna join me and having fun every now and then going out together. Maybe another first step is I need to research where a local class is that I'm really interested in.[00:33:00]

Like it would be really fun for me to do pottery. So the first step is Googling pottery Studios. I'm sorry if I'm saying that completely wrong. Ceramic studios. Do you see how this is just more about brainstorming the first steps? So with this strategy, we talked about acknowledging and owning, accepting your limitations, cast a vision, plotting your first steps.

If all of that feels really overwhelming for you or if you're able to work through that, this is the final thing I want you to do. And it's the last step in the guide. It's a fill in the blank, and it looks like this. I want more fill in the blank. In 2024, I'm getting there by. Fill in the blank. This helps you really center in what do you want more of in 2024 and what will you do to get there?

And your answers may surprise you. Maybe you realize [00:34:00] I want more. Let's go back to that fun example. I want more fun in 2024. I'm getting there by, and maybe you first think like, I have to list all the different ways I'm actually gonna do that. But instead you realize. I'm getting there by making better trade-offs in my life and knowing that I can't do it all, or I'm getting there by hiring a sitter more often, or I'm getting there by making sure I'm prioritizing myself every single day.

It might surprise you because it might be something you didn't even have on your list or your first steps or anything at all. So I want to end this episode. With that prompt for you, what do you want more of in 2024? And how will you get there? I wanna end with me. I want more fun, more adventure, more connection, more creativity.

I want more movies, more sourdough, [00:35:00] more date nights, more traditions. As a family, I want more one-on-one dates with my kids. I want more listeners for the podcast. I want more sponsors, more money to take the show to the next level. I want more early bedtimes and early wake times. I want more journaling, art calories.

I want more goal making and tracking. I want more me in 2024, especially after a year where I felt like I had to fight really, really hard to begin to feel like myself again. What do you want more of? And how can you start to get there? Do you want to be more yourself? Do you wanna have more to give from? Do you want to model for your kids that a fully defined woman is a healthy woman?

Do you want them to have something to look forward to when they're adults too? Then make room for more. Remember [00:36:00] that it's okay to want more.

I hope this episode gave you the hug and kick in the pants you need to grow. I'll now share the progress pointers. These are the notes I took so you don't have to, and those on my newsletter, get them in a graphic form each week. You can sign up at about progress.com/newsletter. What I share here is a shortened version of what you'll see in the newsletter.

Number one, give yourself permission to want more. Number two, name your wants and your fears to clarify what you truly desire and what's holding you back. Number three, if you're unsure where to start, begin with what you lack or even feel jealous about. And number four, strategize for your current season.

Even if you can't pursue everything at once, there are still practical ways for [00:37:00] you to pursue more. I want you to do so by accepting the invitation I have for you to join the inaugural More for Moms Conference. You can do so at about progress.com/more for moms, and that's plural with moms. I am honestly not even nervous about hosting this conference because it's one of those rare pursuits that feels so much bigger than me, and it all comes back

to honoring that thread of the desire for more. That connects all of us again about progress.com/more. For moms. This podcast is listener supported. Members of the Supporters Club make my work with about progress free and available to all. They also get access to three levels of exclusive benefits for more time to more content with me.

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More personal will air an episode about MLMs. It's my whole deep dive that I've been working on for months that I'm so excited for you to hear. You can sign up at about [00:38:00] progress.com/support. You can always support the show for free. I'd encourage you right now to leave a review, especially on Apple Podcasts.

In the fall, I always do a giveaway and it's always pulled from the reviews left in this calendar year, so you'll automatically qualify that by leaving a review right now. Thank you so much for listening. Now go and do something with what you learned today.

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